Geeks need to argue

[pixie]

AIX vs Solaris, let the debate begin.

[pixie]

Yes I am a geek, so dont take offence

[Dank]

A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE GEEKS WOULD LOVE TO ARGUE ABOUT, AND WILL, AT THE DROP OF A HAT

1. PAL vs. NTSC
2. Mercury vs. Apollo
3. Intel vs. AMD
4. Perl vs. Python
5. Grant vs. Lee
6. AD&D vs. EPT
7. Chess vs. Bridge
8. Blackjack vs. Craps
9. Black Spy vs. White Spy
10. ASCII vs. EPSIDIC
11. BiC Ballpoint vs. Pentel Rolling Writer
12. 50Hz vs. 60Hz
13. 1927 Yankees vs. 1995 Indians
14. Chamberlain vs. Russell
15. Beatles vs. Stones
16. Rock vs. Scissors
17. Farrah Fawcett-Majors vs. Jaclyn Smith
18. Jefferson vs. Jackson
19. European Football vs. American Football
20. QWERTY vs. Dvorak
21. Bugs vs. the Road Runner
22. Coke vs. Pepsi
23. Lego vs. Duplo
24. Tastes Great vs. Less Filling
25. The Lady vs. The Tiger
26. Bradbury vs. Asimov
27. Spiderman vs. Batman
28. Beta Blockers vs. ACE Inhibitors
29. Air Force F15 vs. Navy F14
30. Einstein vs. Hawking

[Arizhel]

farbekrieg said:

972. Blue of death is equivalent of a kernel panic

Blue of death needs food, badly.

Oh wait. You meant Blue Screen of Death(tm)

[ProtoClown]

Dank said:

A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE GEEKS WOULD LOVE TO ARGUE ABOUT, AND WILL, AT THE DROP OF A HAT

Fortunately, I have all the right answers to this one.

1. PAL vs. NTSC

NTSC. People actually render things in PAL? Freaks!

2. Mercury vs. Apollo

Apollo.

3. Intel vs. AMD

Intel (but...oddly, Apple recently. Those G5's are hot).

4. Perl vs. Python

Close call, but Perl wins in the end.

5. Grant vs. Lee

Lee

6. AD&D vs. EPT

AD&D, duh.

7. Chess vs. Bridge

Bridge; again, duh.

8. Blackjack vs. Craps

Blackjack.

9. Black Spy vs. White Spy

Too close to call (though I do lean toward the Black Spy).

10. ASCII vs. EPSIDIC

ASCII.

11. BiC Ballpoint vs. Pentel Rolling Writer

Pentel.

12. 50Hz vs. 60Hz

50Hz.

13. 1927 Yankees vs. 1995 Indians

Yankees.

14. Chamberlain vs. Russell

Russell.

15. Beatles vs. Stones

Beatles; again, duh!

16. Rock vs. Scissors

Rock; though I personally perfer Paper.

17. Farrah Fawcett-Majors vs. Jaclyn Smith

Both would be wrong. The right answer is Olivia Newton-John.

18. Jefferson vs. Jackson

Jefferson (although the Tenneessean in me balks at this).

19. European Football vs. American Football

American Football. DUH! Soccer? Why bother?

20. QWERTY vs. Dvorak

QWERTY.

21. Bugs vs. the Road Runner

Bugs, totally.

22. Coke vs. Pepsi

Coke!

23. Lego vs. Duplo

Lego. Those Duplo freaks will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

24. Tastes Great vs. Less Filling

Tastes Great!

25. The Lady vs. The Tiger

The Tiger.

26. Bradbury vs. Asimov

OMG, Asimov all the way.

27. Spiderman vs. Batman

Spiderman.

28. Beta Blockers vs. ACE Inhibitors

Don't care.

29. Air Force F15 vs. Navy F14

This one's too close to call, IMHO.

30. Einstein vs. Hawking

Einstein; again, duh. (Hawking gets major Simpsons kudos, though.)

[Silverking]

*cough*

Ranger vs Bard

[Dank]

Dank said:

A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE GEEKS WOULD LOVE TO ARGUE ABOUT, AND WILL, AT THE DROP OF A HAT

1. PAL vs. NTSC
4. Perl vs. Python
5. Grant vs. Lee
6. AD&D vs. EPT
8. Blackjack vs. Craps
9. Black Spy vs. White Spy
15. Beatles vs. Stones
17. Farrah Fawcett-Majors vs. Jaclyn Smith
26. Bradbury vs. Asimov
28. Beta Blockers vs. ACE Inhibitors
29. Air Force F15 vs. Navy F14
30. Einstein vs. Hawking

proto got a big rofl out of me with his response... i agree with everything he's covered, except these few...

1. PAL vs. NTSC -- gotta love the europeans. having 24 frames/sec means that you don't have any messy drop/blend frame issues when you go between film and video. the original HD cameras were engineered at 30 frames a second and Uncle George (Lucas) finally addressed that boondoggle with the new 24 frame/sec hardware. good riddance. plus NTSC doesn't ever handle red very well, not to mention the nasty moire patterns you can get between areas of high contrast. PAL is my pick.

4. Perl vs. Python -- oh dear proto, you don't know what you're missing. Perl started out as another AWK pattern processor and then grew into an angry monster. ever read a perl manual? talk about kludge mastery. i know alot of folks swear by perl, but for sheer extensibility (read c++) i gotta stay in the python camp. (plus python plug-ins are supported by nearly every off-the-shelf compositing package worth its salt.) this is geekdom in its finest hour.

5. Grant vs. Lee -- grant's victory at vicksburg was the turning point in the civil war. 'nuff said. he may have had more resources at his disposal, but things really weren't looking good had he not cut the south in half before the upcoming elections in 1864.

6. AD&D vs. EPT -- having played both, AD&D has the superlative pipeline, i.e. better game mechanics. but hell, Empire of the Petal Throne is a masterwork of creativity rivalling that of Tolkien. too bad its mechanics are so poor... reminds me of Beta vs. VHS. still have to agree with proto on this one... AD&D.

8. Blackjack vs. Craps -- gotta go with craps on this one. the player/house odds are slightly better if you know how to play the game. reminds me of using the futures/commodities indexes to hedge stock bets.

9. White spy vs. Black spy -- white spy was smarter. black spy always got in first licks.

15. Beatles vs. Stone -- while the beatles were the turning point in studio production techniques for modern pop music (and the stones benefitted immensely from this), i still think it's gotta be stones for longevity, live performance value (aren't they still in concert somewhere?), and sheer listening joy.

17. Farrah vs. Jaclyn -- it's all about charlie's angels... at least it was in my dorm, where we'd meet every friday and conduct a dorm-wide popularity contest and post the results. jaclyn was hot.

25. Lady vs. The Tiger -- aren't women just meanies?

26. Bradbury vs. Asimov -- i'm a bradbury guy. read golden apples in the sun again vs. I Robot. bradbury prose was better and asimov's science was better. i go with the artist.

28. Beta vs. ACE -- i stuck this one in as a nod to my late father who pioneered some of the early clinical work in ACE inhibitors. and you might care someday, trust me.

29. F15 vs. F14 -- navy all the way. my grandfather was a commander at pearl during the surprise attack. it's personal. anything that can deal with a rolling carrier deck is tops in my book.

30. Einstein vs. Hawking -- einstein was the man in his day. hawking, (if he doesn't flip out first) will save the earth from imminent disaster someday. you watch.

[Arizhel]

With all of this slinging of geekdom, I figured you'd at least find this amusing.

www.geekhumor.com/html/1989-ad.html

This thing will burn it up with the mighty 2mb of ram, and 20mHz Intel processor!!

[pixie]

Dank said:

A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE GEEKS WOULD LOVE TO ARGUE ABOUT, AND WILL, AT THE DROP OF A HAT

15. Beatles vs. Stones
16. Rock vs. Scissors
17. Farrah Fawcett-Majors vs. Jaclyn Smith
22. Coke vs. Pepsi
26. Bradbury vs. Asimov

15. David Bowie

16. rock. it flys right through paper, and crushes scissors, so what beats rock? nothing.

17. Betty Page

22. althogh a lovely highfructose based caffine blast in nice, tea please

26. Mike Resnick's Seven Views of Olduvai Gorge, best science fiction short story, ever.

as a geek, I feel I am perfectly in my rights to change the question in to a who was best, not who is the better of the two...

[Griffon]

Silverking said:

*cough*

Ranger vs Bard

Who cares? They both [glow=red,2,300]suck[/glow] anyway.

Nic

[Dank]

farbekrieg said:

Ummm where is
1. VI vs Emacs (some of the best geek battles ive seen)
2. Rogue (that ancient game) vs all other rpg challengers
3. Your Random # generator isnt really random VS EVERYBODY
31. Linux Vs Windoze
32. Your Posts are Lame VS Your Posts Are LAMER!
33. Obfusticated code writer vs rest of programing group
34. Strfry vs Fork
35. Evercrack VS Dark age of camelot
36. Freebasing vs Injecting
972. Blue of death is equivalent of a kernel panic

1. VI vs. EMACS. though i love the low overhead and power of vim, (dump vi and get vim if you haven't already), EMACS is the most amazing lisp-based piece of command processor i've ever seen. talk about extensibility! i think someone wrote a game in EMACS... might have been rogue, actually. i first used EMACS in 1978. it's still around today... and better than ever, though a bit of a memory hog for simple stuff.

3. srand() vs. rand(). as long as it's machine time-based and has a seed, who cares?

31. LINUX vs. Micro$oft. linux. no question. try spawing more than 100 processes on a windows machine with less than 2 GB ram. good luck!

33. real programmers vs. quiche eaters. there's still a place for the crazy-ass uber-talented programmer who doesn't follow the rest of the class. hey, if you want to use embedded machine code in your UI routine, all the power to you.

[Illusion]

AIX attempts to emulate Solaris... I think you see the answer.

LOL

Solairs I've used, AIX I've not. I've been a FreeBSD supporter for years so my oppinon probly won't matter becasue i can't make an Educated oppinon with out using an AIX system first. So I will refraine from forming an Oppinion.

I'm more concerned with CSO and Linux. Their Directors and CEOs have poor knowledge of open sourcing so I think they will lose the fight. I hope they will lose the fight.

[ProtoClown]

Dank said:

1. PAL vs. NTSC -- gotta love the europeans. having 24 frames/sec means that you don't have any messy drop/blend frame issues when you go between film and video. the original HD cameras were engineered at 30 frames a second and Uncle George (Lucas) finally addressed that boondoggle with the new 24 frame/sec hardware. good riddance. plus NTSC doesn't ever handle red very well, not to mention the nasty moire patterns you can get between areas of high contrast. PAL is my pick.

PAL rendering commy freak! I'll take my 29.97 fps NTSC goodness any day over your heathen euro-standard. Doesn't handle red well, indeed. How I scoff!

Dank said:

4. Perl vs. Python -- oh dear proto, you don't know what you're missing. Perl started out as another AWK pattern processor and then grew into an angry monster. ever read a perl manual? talk about kludge mastery. i know alot of folks swear by perl, but for sheer extensibility (read c++) i gotta stay in the python camp. (plus python plug-ins are supported by nearly every off-the-shelf compositing package worth its salt.) this is geekdom in its finest hour.

\/\/hatEva! A true geek clings to tradition! However, I do understand you more n00b geeks need to represent, so I'll overlook your attraction to python.

Dank said:

5. Grant vs. Lee -- grant's victory at vicksburg was the turning point in the civil war. 'nuff said. he may have had more resources at his disposal, but things really weren't looking good had he not cut the south in half before the upcoming elections in 1864.

I cannot understand why you fail to see that *Lee* was d'man. L33 r r0x0rz, gr4nt r sux0rz!!!1

Dank said:

6. AD&D vs. EPT -- having played both, AD&D has the superlative pipeline, i.e. better game mechanics. but hell, Empire of the Petal Throne is a masterwork of creativity rivalling that of Tolkien. too bad its mechanics are so poor... reminds me of Beta vs. VHS. still have to agree with proto on this one... AD&D.

There may be hope for you yet!

Dank said:

8. Blackjack vs. Craps -- gotta go with craps on this one. the player/house odds are slightly better if you know how to play the game. reminds me of using the futures/commodities indexes to hedge stock bets.

But Blackjack is a far more elegant game played with crisp, beautiful cards rather than plebian, germ-infested dice fondled by the masses. I think once you consider this, you'll see that I'm actually right, and you are WRONG WRONG WRONG! ;D

Dank said:

9. White spy vs. Black spy -- white spy was smarter. black spy always got in first licks.

Granted. But I still like the Black spy!

Dank said:

15. Beatles vs. Stone -- while the beatles were the turning point in studio production techniques for modern pop music (and the stones benefitted immensely from this), i still think it's gotta be stones for longevity, live performance value (aren't they still in concert somewhere?), and sheer listening joy.

Just because one of the Stones wasn't murdered doesn't make them the better band.

It's a sad thing that the Yoko Ono effect destroyed the greatest band in history... Let us all remember and mourn!

Dank said:

17. Farrah vs. Jaclyn -- it's all about charlie's angels... at least it was in my dorm, where we'd meet every friday and conduct a dorm-wide popularity contest and post the results. jaclyn was hot.

Granted, Jaclyn was (and is) hot. But against Olivia Newton-John? C'mon, none of the Angles stand a chance. ;D

Dank said:

25. Lady vs. The Tiger -- aren't women just meanies?

True. Again, there's hope for you, yet! ...maybe...

Dank said:

26. Bradbury vs. Asimov -- i'm a bradbury guy. read golden apples in the sun again vs. I Robot. bradbury prose was better and asimov's science was better. i go with the artist.

However, Asimov's short stories were far, far better, and the original Foundation novels represent the essence of the rise of the sci-fi novel. I'll grant you that Asimov at his worst is far, far worse than Bradbury at his worst; but Asimov at his best? Brilliance!

A few years ago I had the honor of meeting Bradbury in person. In spite of a stroke, being bound by a wheelchair, and growing vastly ancient, his mind was still sharp, his wit was quick, and his humor was first rate. So I have to shout out to Bradbury, even though I like Asimov more.

Dank said:

28. Beta vs. ACE -- i stuck this one in as a nod to my late father who pioneered some of the early clinical work in ACE inhibitors. and you might care someday, trust me.

29. F15 vs. F14 -- navy all the way. my grandfather was a commander at pearl during the surprise attack. it's personal. anything that can deal with a rolling carrier deck is tops in my book.

30. Einstein vs. Hawking -- einstein was the man in his day. hawking, (if he doesn't flip out first) will save the earth from imminent disaster someday. you watch.

I'm simply out of time to explain how wrong you are on these three counts! Must get serious and return to writing boring garbage about new media, digitality, and performance theory. (I hate grad school...)

[Cordelia]

Despite being a non-geek, I'll bite and submit my opinions:

1. PAL vs. NTSC

Why oh why do you Americans have to invent your own standards? When I finally visit the States I will have to ensure that I have a tri-band mobile!

2. Mercury vs. Apollo

Apollo. I was raised on a diet of Greek mythology.

3. Intel vs. AMD

AMD - none too sure of the technical arguments because I'm not a gamer nor do I overclock. I just really loathe those Intel television adverts.

4. Perl vs. Python

I've toyed with the idea of learning a language to take my first steps in picking up programming concepts ever since trying to learn Commodore Basic and writing adventure games using the 'Quill' (remember that?). My *nix friends tell me to learn Perl, but in other quarters I've been told to learn Python. I like the idea of Python and it's simplicity - not to mention extendibility.

I think I'll look into Python once I've delved more into HTML (css)

5. Grant vs. Lee

I am aware of significant historial American events but not the detail. I stuided early 20th century European history.

6. AD&D vs. EPT

Never read Empire of the Petal Throne, but I have developed a hatred of AD&D and it's multitude of rules. Almost as bad as Rolemaster.

7. Chess vs. Bridge

Chess. It's also a spectator sport.

8. Blackjack vs. Craps

Neither. If you had to press me then Blackjack. But I'd rather play poker (especially variants).

9. Black Spy vs. White Spy

Black without a doubt. This question is really Anti vs Paladin. The dark side is rather seductive.

10. ASCII vs. EPSIDIC

What on earth is EPSIDIC? I'll go with ASCII because I know what ASCII is.

11. BiC Ballpoint vs. Pentel Rolling Writer

Pentel every time, although I don't use Pentel pens and I loathe bics. I'm unable to right using bic pens - horrible, cheap, plastic rubbish. I much prefer roller-balls.

Bold annotations are my own

Did you SPOT the phonetic spelling mistake? Good Lord! I am astounded and disgusted with myself that I even words in their wrong context. I feel so ashamed. Writing during work lunch-hours does not allow one the luxury of proof-reading.

12. 50Hz vs. 60Hz

What's the difference between hertz?

13. 1927 Yankees vs. 1995 Indians

Baseball. I have absolute -zero- interest in American sports.

14. Chamberlain vs. Russell

I can only think of Neville Chamberlain and Bertrand Russell.

15. Beatles vs. Stones

Beatles every time. Although I like the Stones, I much prefer the Lennon & McCartney's song-writing and modern production. Although 75% of the Beatles output was dire, the other 25% is bordering on genius. That said, I think the Kinks, especially Ray Davies, are terribly underrated. Snap Paul Weller in his 'The Jam' days.

16. Rock vs. Scissors

Like Proto, I'm a paper man.

17. Farrah Fawcett-Majors vs. Jaclyn Smith

Jaclyn Smith every way, bay-bee!. You're wrong, of course. The question should be Catherine Bach (or should that be Barbara Bach?).

18. Jefferson vs. Jackson

(see above answer on American History).

19. European Football vs. American Football

Is this serious? (see above answer on American Sports)

20. QWERTY vs. Dvorak

What is 'Dvorak'? Since I can touch type I'll plump for QWERTY.

21. Bugs vs. the Road Runner

Bugs. I take this question to be sacrilegious! RR was a nothing more than a cheap, vacuous cartoon that didn't possess any of the verbal dexterity and juxtaposition of the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Bugs Bunny also pushed the boundaries in coded form e.g. dressing up as women, playing a variety of characters, displaying on occasion what hinted at an aberrant sexuality.

22. Coke vs. Pepsi

I used to be a Coke person but now prefer the taste of Pepsi. I absolutely loathe both sets of television adverts - especially the Pepsi 'We Will Rock You' with Pink.

23. Lego vs. Duplo

Lego. Duplo is for babies whilst lego is for all budding architects and building constructors.

24. Tastes Great vs. Less Filling

Don't understand the context of the question.

25. The Lady vs. The Tiger

Ditto.

26. Bradbury vs. Asimov

Would choose Bradbury as although the Science may not be as accurate as Asmiov, his concepts and themes were much broader.

27. Spiderman vs. Batman

Batman for exploring the psychology of Superheroes. But I would recommend 'Watchmen' for that aspect.

28. Beta Blockers vs. ACE Inhibitors

No knowledge or real interest to be able to comment.

29. Air Force F15 vs. Navy F14

(see above).

30. Einstein vs. Hawking

Would Hawking be as widely famous if he hadn't been struck down by Motor Neurone Disease? Would he be as widely famous if some malicious programmer from the company that created his computer synth equipment gave Stephen say, a Brummie accent? Or a Hicksville accent? A Valley girl accent?

Regards,
Cordelia

P.s. Don't get me started on vi vs EMACS. I absolutely detest vi on the occasions that I was forced to use it. It may well be powerful but user-friendly? Vi(le) more like it.

[Dank]

More downtime nonsense:

1. Darwin vs. Noah

2. Digital vs. Analog

3. Film vs. HD

4. Luke vs. Han

5. Sati vs. Arizhel

6. Bard vs. Ranger

7. Blonde vs. Brunette

8. Steak vs. Tofu

9. Mohawk vs. Mullet

10. Ohio State vs. USC

[antrus]

1. Darwin vs. Noah
Noah could build something to run over Darwin with.
2. Digital vs. Analog
Digital
3. Film vs. HD
HD
4. Luke vs. Han
Luke kissed his sister... so Hans
5. Sati vs. Arizhel
Not touching this one...
6. Bard vs. Ranger
Bard
7. Blonde vs. Brunette
Brunette
8. Steak vs. Tofu
Steak
9. Mohawk vs. Mullet
Mullet all the way
10. Ohio State vs. USC
USC, but now that they're out of the NC game, I'm rooting for Florida to get in

[Sati]

Had to register just to reply to this one!
1. Darwin vs. Noah - one has scientific knowledge without much faith, and the other has faith without much scientific knowledge. Both are missing something.
2. Digital vs. Analog - I agree, digital
3. Film vs. HD - I'll take mud, thanks
4. Luke vs. Han - Han, but not because Luke kissed Leia. It's the whining, man, the whining.
5. Sati vs. Arizhel - The one you wouldn't touch? Why? Your best bet here is just to get us both drunk. Then it's all good. Tested and proven =)
6. Bard vs. Ranger - Paladin, of course!
7. Blonde vs. Brunette - Blondes truly do have more fun. Again, tested and proven.
8. Steak vs. Tofu - I'd have to go with steak, because I've never had tofu.
9. Mohawk vs. Mullet - Mullets are still sexy. Mohawks require too much glue, and they smell bad.
10. Ohio State vs. USC - What sport is this?

And why the hell isn't my mud up and running?